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Post by Admin on Nov 2, 2013 18:56:47 GMT
hahahaha  I got 2 7970's and 11 7050's currently mining mate! LOL There are people with many more than me, I'm just a mini farm lol  Don't have the scratch or motivation to invest in a rig like that... But... I am open to ideas on convincing a company to press some wafers for some scrypt processors... It's 4 rigs in total, here is one of them  And erm.... say what now? For realz? You talking about scrypt asic?  |
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Post by tristoned on Nov 2, 2013 19:40:59 GMT
Nerdgasmic hardware you have there. Yes, sure. ASIC-scrypt. The problem with application specific integrated circuits is in the name. One type of calc. That's all you get. Now, we know there have been announcements for ASIC-scrypt hardware i.e.: scryptasic.org/?page_id=34 - This guy is capable of 25MH/s on scrypt for 800 quid. The problem with getting hardware like this made, the same problim with the ASIC-Sha is finding a chip manufacturing company willing to press the wafers. There's only a few factories capable of churning out the chips. As the integrated circuit market/processor market is well-developed and dominated by massive corporations, and the demand for ASIC chips is very low-- the price per chip pressed is very high due to low order volume-- that is if you can convince an IC manufacturer to even consider filling a small order. Hence, why companies like butterfly labs etc... charge such a premium for their tech. It is obvious their second round of chips, at 28nm (imperfection tolerance measurement) are cheaper in comparison to their original 65 nm chips because they made so much damn money on the first ones, they had more to invest for a larger order for the second round... The technology is there, and it is a simple one. The price of the hardware is high because its a pain in the ass to get a place to press the chips. You get about 150+ chips per wafer, so if you wanted 15000 units, you only need 1000 wafers. Most of these manufacturers prefer orders much larger than that due to the time of adapting the system to manufacture different types of chips... So... There it is. Convince a company to press the wafers, get the capital, and you're golden. Simple, yeah? |
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Post by Admin on Nov 2, 2013 19:53:04 GMT
Nerdgasmic hardware you have there. Yes, sure. ASIC-scrypt. The problem with application specific integrated circuits is in the name. One type of calc. That's all you get. Now, we know there have been announcements for ASIC-scrypt hardware i.e.: scryptasic.org/?page_id=34 - This guy is capable of 25MH/s on scrypt for 800 quid. The problem with getting hardware like this made, the same problim with the ASIC-Sha is finding a chip manufacturing company willing to press the wafers. There's only a few factories capable of churning out the chips. As the integrated circuit market/processor market is well-developed and dominated by massive corporations, and the demand for ASIC chips is very low-- the price per chip pressed is very high due to low order volume-- that is if you can convince an IC manufacturer to even consider filling a small order. Hence, why companies like butterfly labs etc... charge such a premium for their tech. It is obvious their second round of chips, at 28nm (imperfection tolerance measurement) are cheaper in comparison to their original 65 nm chips because they made so much damn money on the first ones, they had more to invest for a larger order for the second round... The technology is there, and it is a simple one. The price of the hardware is high because its a pain in the ass to get a place to press the chips. You get about 150+ chips per wafer, so if you wanted 15000 units, you only need 1000 wafers. Most of these manufacturers prefer orders much larger than that due to the time of adapting the system to manufacture different types of chips... So... There it is. Convince a company to press the wafers, get the capital, and you're golden. Simple, yeah? Wow, okay, I understand.. But with scrypt you need ram too... So how does that work? I have no idea like lol... So, you think you can do the first bit? Just need the capital... Hmmmmm, soon mate, soon... Thanks for the great rundown btw. |
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Post by tristoned on Nov 2, 2013 20:28:22 GMT
Yeah, sure-- you need ram-- and scrypt was designed to make the trade-off between performance and memory usage costly outside of a specific range. I'd have to speak with some electrical engineers... I'll go knock on my neighbors door and see if he can enlighten me before I step out of my field and bite my tongue off. He's got his doctorate in EE... hell-- I've been meaning to speak with him about this anyway. I'll get back with you when he's finished taking a giant engineering dump in my brain.
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Post by Admin on Nov 2, 2013 20:42:08 GMT
Yeah, sure-- you need ram-- and scrypt was designed to make the trade-off between performance and memory usage costly outside of a specific range. I'd have to speak with some electrical engineers... I'll go knock on my neighbors door and see if he can enlighten me before I step out of my field and bite my tongue off. He's got his doctorate in EE... hell-- I've been meaning to speak with him about this anyway. I'll get back with you when he's finished taking a giant engineering dump in my brain. Man that sounds amazing! I will wait patiently with baiited breath for your return! Wow man that would be awesome.... I had a crazy thought, what about NET branded scyrpt miners? BOOM |
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Post by snawdog on Nov 6, 2013 16:07:00 GMT
Don't have the scratch or motivation to invest in a rig like that... But... I am open to ideas on convincing a company to press some wafers for some scrypt processors... It's 4 rigs in total, here is one of them And erm.... say what now? For realz? You talking about scrypt asic? That pic gave me semi-boner... |
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Post by Admin on Nov 6, 2013 19:15:01 GMT
Wanna see my newish one? Went for a different design... When I get a spare moment I'll take a snap for ya.  |
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Post by Admin on Nov 6, 2013 19:26:32 GMT
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Post by Loopy on Nov 8, 2013 10:17:03 GMT
Beauty! Did you build the frame?
I've been mining in the pool trouble-free. No support required! Although their new website layout broke my login form save...
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Post by Admin on Nov 8, 2013 13:13:41 GMT
Beauty! Did you build the frame? I've been mining in the pool trouble-free. No support required! Although their new website layout broke my login form save... I did sir, out of wood lol, then painted it with plastidip. A kind of paint that forms like a rubber layer, you could peel it off, really cool stuff... Yeah I guess we just hit a slight bump lol And yeah the templates messed me up a bit too, I like the black one so went back to that. You can choose it in account settings you know? |
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May 15, 2017 16:22:36 GMT
Great to hear. 
